George Lucas jokes about selling Star Wars to ‘white slavers’ and why he was against a ‘retro’ sequel

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Here’s a very candid and insightful interview that Charlie Rose did with George Lucas, the creator of Star Wars, that dives deep into his personal life, philosophies on directing, and his thoughts on selling the Star Wars property to Disney. He also talks about why he’s not a fan of awards, competing with Steven Spielberg, wanting to retire, creating The Force and more.

With Disney buying out Star Wars, it has its own vision on the future of the Star Wars universe. Lucas reveals that his idea of future Star Wars movies is different and why Disney didn’t want to involve Lucas in the filmmaking process. With Disney now owning Lucasfilm, Lucas no longer has any say.

“They looked at the stories, and they said, ‘We want to make something for the fans’….They decided they didn’t want to use those stories, they decided they were going to do their own thing….They weren’t that keen to have me involved anyway — but if I get in there, I’m just going to cause trouble, because they’re not going to do what I want them to do. And I don’t have the control to do that anymore, and all I would do is muck everything up,” Lucas said. “And so I said, ‘Okay, I will go my way, and I’ll let them go their way.’ ”

The interview then went on with Lucas saying that the Star Wars films are his “kids,” but then acknowledges, “I sold them to the white slavers that takes these things, and [laughs].” It’s a good thing he didn’t elaborate on the comparison since it could have gotten worse.

Disney’s idea of Star Wars: The Force Awakens was to create a “retro movie,” with Lucas wanting to do something new.

“They wanted to do a retro movie. I don’t like that. Every movie I work very hard to make them completely different, with different planets, with different spaceships, make it new,” he said.

He talks about how Hollywood tried to capture the success of Star Wars with other sci-fi movies.

“Everybody went out and made spaceship movies and they were all horrible and they all lost tons of money. And you say, there’s more to it than that. You just can’t go out and do spaceships,” he said.

“Of course, the only way you could really do that [make money] is not take chances. Only do something that’s proven,” Lucas continued. “You gotta remember, ‘Star Wars’ came from nowhere. ‘American Graffiti’ came from nowhere. There was nothing like it. Now, if you do anything that’s not a sequel or not a TV series or doesn’t look like one, they won’t do it!”

Lucas wants to work on smaller films.

“These are little tiny movies…I’m going back to where ‘American Graffiti’ or ’THX [1138],’ where I can completely change the way you tell a story in using cinema. I produced a few films that were like this, but they weren’t like what I would do,” he revealed.

“I’ve been fascinated with the true nature of the medium — it’s been used more as a recording medium, than as a art form unto itself,” Lucas said. “…they call them tone poems — in the beginning in Russia, this was a whole movement of: how do you tell visual stories, basically without dialogue, without all the things you use to tell a story, and you just use the film itself. It’s kind of esoteric, it hasn’t come much further in one hundred years. I’m going to try and take it into something that is more emotionally powerful than most of the stuff we’ve done up to this point.”

He revealed why he decided to sell Lucasfilm because he wanted to create films that he wanted to create whether they are big hits or not. If the movies bombed, that would not bode well for the company, so he sold the company so that his employees could continue to work.

Check out the full interview below.

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