Deadpool co-creator Rob Liefeld and J. Scott Campbell respond to outrage surrounding Frank Cho’s Spider-Gwen art

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Looks like the video game community isn’t the only one fighting on the inside. We also have the comic book community doing that as well.

It all began when Milo Manara did a Spider-Woman cover that had her ass sticking out. Some were outraged by the suggestive pose and anatomy. This lead to the community arguing with each other. Then we have the Joker and Batgirl variant cover, and well, that didn’t help.

Artist Frank Cho added fuel to the fire by creating a Spider-Gwen artwork that parodied Manara’s cover, where we can see Gwen posing in a similar manner. People got mad, and he did another artwork with Harley Quinn posing the same way with the Joker enjoying it. Spider-Gwen creator Robbi Rodriguez chimed in, pretty much disapproving of Cho’s actions and saying that Cho should not go near him.

Now Deadpool co-creator Rob Liefied and Danger Girl creator J. Scott Campbell join in on the discussion via Facebook. Here’s what Liefeld had to say on the matter:

Allow me for a minute to direct this diatribe specifically at my comic book brethren… In recent times I haven’t joined in the fray but this time I have to stand up. I just finished reading a disturbing rant by a fellow who took, in my humble opinion, uncalled for shots at two stellar talents in my industry, in our industry, Frank Cho and J J Scott Campbell. Let’s establish here at the outset that these two are a pair of comic book wizards, visual stylists that have been at the top of the comic book mountain top, and have entertained the masses for nearly two decades. Both men are famous for their renderings of the female physique, an art form once referred to as “cheesecake” by possibly the best illustrator comic books ever saw, Dave Stevens. Campbell and Cho have entertained myself and most of you with their outstanding work on Gen 13, Avengers, Star Wars, Danger Girl and X-Men over the years. Again, both are Titans in comics and illustration, having spent entire weekends with both gentlemen on the convention circuit, I can tell you that both men are outstanding human beings. From my experiences with both they are generous, warm and have a great sense of humor. It has been publicly suggested recently that each stop drawing in their respective styles, equating them with being “dirty” and “perverted”…. Say what???? What’s going on here? Is Jessica Rabbit a shameful cartoon to today’s audience? Betty Boop? This rhetoric has been increasing of late and I find it completely distasteful that we are now calling out talents such as Frank Cho, J Scott Campbell, Milo Minara for their svelte female figures. Hey, pal, whoever you are, this is fantasy, it’s not real you know. We draw warrior men and warrior women. You know who also puts a little sway in their female figures? How about Jim Lee, Marc Marc Silvestri, Erik Larsen,Todd McFarlane, Adam Hughes, the list could go on forever but now each of my comic book brethren are being crucified and I would suggest that the wide majority of us who support their work get really loud and stand up and say this isn’t okay. Don’t suggest your fellow artist is somehow below you because he draws a voluptuous figure. These aren’t pornographic images, it’s just healthy female heroins, sometimes illustrated in a dynamic manner or an occasionally cheeky way. So I’ll end here by asking us all to stand up for two of our own, each who deserves better than threats or suggestions that they change their trademark and very successful styles! I’ll tell you what, we could all use MORE comics from Campbell and Cho, two time tested commercial powerhouses, not less.

J. Scott Campbell appreciated Liefeld’s comments and replied with:

Thank you Rob, not only for the generous and tremendously kind words, but as you so elegantly said, for standing up for what it is that we do. I do think it’s perfectly fine to draw and depict, healthy, strong, beautiful, pretty, yes… dare I say occasionally “sexy” and alluring women in our industry. Can it go too far..? sure, as can anything that’s considered art. But I think we self regulate just fine, we have for decades. But this groundswell that’s going on with these blogs with an agenda and this faux outrage, suggesting that us artists who are predominately known for drawing attractive and pretty women need to “grow up” and suddenly leave the industry that we love and that loves us because of a noisy few… despite the evidence that the books we work on are selling in the high stratosphere is preposterous! Thank you for standing up for us Rob! I sincerely hope more start joining us! If you love what we do, stand the hell up for us and don’t let these message boards and rogue artists dictate the narrative any longer!

Liefeld responds again:

I’m fed up J, and I tell you, so many others are as well. We need to speak out, stand together. All stylistic expressions can exist together.but not at the expense of our personal stylings. And this recent attempt to shame guys who have been adored for years is deplorable.

I’ll admit that I’m not a fan of Liefeld’s style, but I appreciate him as an artist in the industry. I’m also a big fan of Campbell’s work. I love the way he draws the female form, and one of his comments has made me sad for his future.

The industry is watching all of these interactions and the policies of the big companies are changing as they’re reacting to this garbage. We’re starting to feel the conservative safeness in their choices more and more. Some of the artists you love are actually getting less and less work because their styles are deemed as “too sexy” now according to these loud voices of the minority.

What do you think about the issue?

Via The Outhousers

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