Liz Katz may have once been in porn, so what?

Liz Katz

Liz Katz has been an inescapable name these past few days, especially if you spend time on our website. Katz became infamous when her Indiegogo campaign for a new costume raised over $4500, far beyond its initial goal. The story has whirled across the cosplay community and the reaction of the people have been intensely negative.

However, the story and discussion has not ended there. Equally distributed is the likelihood that Liz Katz was an adult film performer named Risi Simms, an allegation which she denies. The Risi Simms comparison is brought up constantly when discussing the morality of Katz actions with her Indigogo efforts though. But why does that matter?

So what if Liz Katz allegedly used to be in pornography? How does that relate to the fact that she asked for public funding to do a photo shoot? The real answer is that it doesn’t, and we should be a little embarrassed at how much people are obsessing over it, although I’m not surprised.

Adult film performers are somewhat of a cultural fascination. We all know that they exist and a vast majority of us are quite familiar with their work. Pornography takes what is an intensely private activity for most, and displays it on the public stage. We are naturally intrigued by behavior that breaks so many social boundaries, yet very few of us actually know any adult film performers on a personal level. This makes it very easy for us to disengage from them as people, and simply see them as the sexual objects that they are portraying themselves as.

That is why, despite the massive global consumption of pornography and the vast cultural acceptance of its existence, people who work in the adult industry are still seen as “bad people.” Think of every stereotype you know of people who work in pornography that does not have to do with physical characteristics. The lists includes undesirable things like having low intelligence, a history of addiction or abuse, and low self-esteem. We see adult performers as being unclean and unable to make a living by conventional means as opposed to “proper” members of society. In general, you do not want to be the kind of person that we believe porn stars are.

There’s an incredible stigma attached to the profession, despite the wide cultural acceptance of pornography consumption in private. Jenna Jameson is a household name, but you would be hard pressed to find many people that genuinely respect her. These stigmas are incredibly harmful and serve as a major hindrance whenever someone tries to leave the adult industry, no matter what new field they are trying to enter. This is being clearly illustrated in the conversation about Liz Katz, and it has been mainly for two reasons.

The first has to do with the social obsession with adult performers and the general tendency to gawk at them as a result. It’s a form of schadenfreude not unlike that behind the popularity of figures like Honey Boo Boo, the modern version of old-timey “freak shows” at travelling circuses. The second is that it is used as a way to further denounce Liz Katz and lay more criticism against her fundraiser as a result, even though the two things are completely unrelated. By accusing Katz of having a history in pornography, commenters are casting her in a role which holds many negative beliefs against it. They’re putting her in that group of “bad people.” And because she’s associated with a group of “bad people,” she must be capable of bad things.

It’s an ad hominem argument, attacking Liz Katz’s character in order to discredit her actions. However, if you’ve ever taken an introductory course in logical reasoning, you know that an ad hominem argument is a logical fallacy. Logically, a person’s character is separate from any argument that they are making. Good people are capable of bad things and vice versa, therefore arguing that someone with a poor character does not discount the value of any one of their actions. A famous example is the fact that Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian and extremely good with children. Similarly, one cannot argue that Tiger Woods is not one of the world’s greatest golfers because he had several extramarital affairs. The two subjects are not linked.

The situation is no different with Liz Katz. Even if she did have sex on camera for money in the past as Risi Simms, that has no effect on the scruples of her fundraiser. Therefore, the accusation has no place in a discussion on the fundraiser. End of story.

There has been even further discourse over the fact that Katz has apparently been censoring discussion about her alleged past as best she can, deleting YouTube and Facebook comments that reference it and asking websites to close the comments section of articles where the topic has come up. Katz has faced even further criticism for these actions, but much of the discourse has been problematic.

People say that if you don’t want anyone to know you’re in porn, you shouldn’t be in porn. This is an intensely oversimplified statement that overlooks basic human nature. People make mistakes, and we often regret those mistakes. It’s a natural part of life. To say “if you don’t want people to know you were in porn, don’t be in porn” is akin to saying “you are not allowed to make mistakes.” Nearly half of marriages end in divorce, and yet people still get married. People die in car accidents every day, and yet people still drive. You can fully understand the potential risk of something, still choose to do it, and not be wrong for making that decision. Nobody who enters a new career in pornography starts with the mindset of “I’m going to regret this in 5 years,” just like nobody enters any new career thinking it will end badly for them. But plans fail, people change, and circumstances alter. As always, hindsight is 20/20.

If the allegations against Katz are true, then she’s had the misfortune of making a very public mistake. If she cannot escape it, it will close doors for her for the rest of her life. But let me ask you how fair it is for someone to be completely defined by their mistakes, especially when they didn’t hurt anyone. Risi Simms was an adult performer, not a criminal, not an abuser of children, not anything that cause anyone any real harm. Then why can’t we let it go?

Many are saying that the more Katz fights the allegations, the more people care about them and want to know if they are true. Therefore, by saying, “No, I’m not Risi Simms,” Katz has made more people care about whether or not she is Risi Simms. This may be true, but with everything we know about how people think and what is said about people in the adult industry, can you really blame her? Put yourself in her position for a moment. It may be her past, and she may just be trying to move on, but nobody seems very eager to let her do so.

In the end, I just ask that you remember that no matter what Liz Katz has done on Indiegogo, or how much money she raised, or how many things she’s bought, or how you feel about her photography, it all has nothing to do with a woman who was called Risi Simms.

Genevieve LeBlanc

Genevieve LeBlanc is a contributing writer for NerdReactor.com and lives in snowy Canada.

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  • Charizard

    Because you post this, I will search Risi Simms. On the article, I completely agree. You cannot negate the present because of the past. I wish a statement that seems so obvious was more widely considered.

  • Leva Kumar

    Don’t fake the funk Liz Katz. She’s Risi Simms and her boyfriend Sam Macaroni is already sitting on tons of camera gear from his Youtube stuff. Don’t cry poor and then ask your fans to fund your $45 costume.

    http://www.freeones.com/html/r_links/Risi_Simms/links/

    http://www.youtube.com/user/SamMacaroni

  • Isaac Montoya

    DEBUNKED!! Risi Simms’ bellybutton is an inne!! Liz Katz is an outy lol…stupid yes but its there, not only that but they really don’t look anything alike…

    • Your Argument is Invalid
      • PwnPocalypse

        That’s not her. That’s Katsuni.

        • anifreak

          yes, but the one eating her asshole is risi simms, aka liz katz, it is 100% that they are the same person, google risi simms, you will realize that she and Liz katz are in fact the same.Not goint to lie, the ciip with liz katz, shyla jennings and katsuni is pretty hot. Also, a cosplay facebook page posted a pic known as liz katz with the title risi simms and quickly deleted it. I don’t have a problem with her being a low budget pornstar or a low budget cosplayer, men will drool over anything that has an attractive face and huge tits.

          • disqus_yHvGW3Su8x

            The problem is she doesn’t have an attractive face.

  • James Campbell

    Why would the public fund some Cosplay hooker’s photo shoot anyway? These professional Cosplayers are a disgrace to a hobby participated in by true fans of the source material. The professional Cosplayers are just wannabe celebrities/models in search of cheap exposure and publicity. Don’t give them your money.

  • James Campbell

    Go here http://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialRisiSimms and look at Risi Simms’ YouTube channel. She “likes” all of Liz Katz’s videos. Coincidence? Probably not.

    • Retards

      Dear god you have no Internet competency. This was obviously a subtle troll that has already completed his task by fooling you.

  • Princess Peach

    Saying the words “end of story” doesn’t actually end a discussion. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior and everything about this “performer” reeks of someone who will do anything for attention, fame, and money. Disregarding someone’s past “mistakes” is only ever valid when they own up to them and acknowledge that they have learned something from them. This girl has chosen to lie about her past and is very probably lying about where this $4500 is going to go. This entire discussion began well before anyone realized that this girl was a porn star. It’s about how her behavior makes the entire cosplay community look.

    • Brandon Randolph

      Peach she’s a cosplayer. She milks horny men for money. Which she’s been doing for years it seems. Why anyone would fund her is beyond me.

      • disqus_yHvGW3Su8x

        Plus she’s isn’t even attractive. =w=

  • MRASoldier

    *I* don’t have a problem with it, but if someone doesn’t want to hire her for her past it’s their money and their right.

  • Jimmy

    2 seconds of research online shows that they both have the same tattoo on their right shoulder blade. That’s pretty conclusive. But the fact that she used to do porn does not change my opinion of her in the slightest. I don’t know why it would change anyone’s opinion about her. If anything, it will probably increase her popularity with her male fans and with her open-minded female fans and associates. The only people who will look down on her for it are people who don’t matter anyway.

  • Dan

    Thanks to you, I found confirmation that she indeed was a pornstar. Thank you! I’m sure Liz Katz would really, REALLY appreciate you giving us her name and ways to confirm. If I was her, my first celebrity feud would be with you, and this article has EVERYTHING to do with a pornstar named Risi Simms. I’m gunna link this article to all her youtube videos.. that should be…. fun and interesting

    • cheshire

      Yeah..it’s pretty obvious that it’s her.. and even though people don’t need to judge someone for “making mistakes”…which knowing her I really doubt she sees it as a mistake…but i really really frown upon straight up LYING to people about one’s past.
      wtf.. you know you did porn..and it’s not that hard to see that it’s you…just own up to it! don’t LIE!
      ..i must say..there are waaay less photos of risi simms on google images than last time i looked [over a year ago] so looks like she’s been busy wiping her tracks! lol

  • blueorangeny31

    I personally don’t care if she was in porn. What I do care is if Liz really does it for the love of the genre, gaming, anime, comics etc or $. I believe it’s the latter, she’s just in it for the money. And especially since I read she raised money for a shoot. Correct me if I’m wrong but I have not seen another cosplayer raise money for a shoot even if they were in it for the money and not the love.

  • Toumbas CYPRUS

    Risi Simms is Liz katz ,but u know what?this girl has change because she realize that was she doing was a MISTAKE , she was poor and she try every job so she can take money, that’s why she being a pornstar. I personally beleave that she change and that she will NEVER AGAIN PLAY IN PORN MOVIE. ACCEPT THE FACT THA SHE CHANGE AND RESPECT HER AS THE PERSON IS TODAY (sorry for my English)

    • cheshire

      Hahahahaha!
      do you know her personally?
      she didnt decide it was a mistake..she decided she figured out another way to make money…there’s a difference

    • the_Shepherd

      its not in her past, heres a vid of her thats rather current, (check the bigger cup size then she use to have lol)

      http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1079772164&pkey=289090121392896801

      • disqus_yHvGW3Su8x

        It’s called a boob job.

  • No_cares_it’s_the_interent

    I wish people would realize that while, yes I am sure most of the internet is going on about her being a porn star. That’s not what most of the people care about, the problem is that she just shows up one day and say’s “hey guys and girls I’m a nerdy cosplayer.” When in reality just just wears outfits that are her pretty much prancing about half nude or trying to make every picture show that’s she is “sexy, edgy or have her chest sticking out.” It’s all about how she is presenting herself not about “omg she did porn omg omg.” I do agree with the statements of “who the hell cares if she did porn” People do things to get by, to make a living, or just cause really that is your best option at the time. The problem with the kickstarter that she did? Its the fact that most cosplayers, male or female be leave in the rule of thumb that if you cant afford to make it you save up for it, plus I mean really did you see the picture of the materials that she bought? That stuff could have been bought for no more than 100$+ if you are a smart enough shopper.

    tl:dr – The problem that people have in the cosplay community is how she is going about presenting herself and handing things, not the fact she did porn.

    • cheshire

      Not sure where you live, but in LA materials cost next to nothing..cheaper than pretty much anywhere else in the country. Labor costs some money… but……not THAT much.

  • ChadMedia

    The people who hate on Liz for her past are jealous nerd boys who couldn’t have her in the first place so they resort to “slut shaming” her. Losers.

    • cheshire

      ..maybe it’s not hating on anyone for their past..but rather feeling disrespected for being straight up lied to about it?

      • ChadMedia

        And you were hurt by this because…

    • disqus_yHvGW3Su8x

      She’s not attractive though, so what are you talking about?

  • Well Duh
  • Well Duh

    She’s not just been in porn. She’s been in cosplay porn. And then you get a fundraiser for a new costume… Well, why do we throw money at strippers?

  • Well Duh

    It appears I can’t directly link to the site with (obviously) her cosplay porn. So feel free to enter the string “yes hentai real kasumi cosplay” and then tell me that isn’t Liz Katz.

  • Eddie Izm

    I dated Liz for a year…allot can be said. while I think her past work in the adult industry is fun gossip, for her it’s a real challenge. LA is a tough town for a cute new face and often times people are met with decisions that they can’t really turn back from. Liz is a mother and has allot more on her plate than just garnering attention. It’s shocking that in this age of tabloid media something so trivial would matter. the only criticism I have, having known her quite well, is that its a tad unfair to cosplayers who have a real passion for it and make their own costumes from scratch to use her assets to simply pay to look the part.

  • bitterlips

    I’m happier having known; I knew Risi Simms quit porn because she absolutely hated it and wanted to continue her education. Long after she quit she still got calls and offers to do porn, and now I can respect her decision to want to disassociate with that with a new identity. If anything, it makes me much happier knowing that Liz Katz is out there doing something she wants to do and loves doing (playing video games and cosplaying) rather than something where she’s crying, gagging, and scraping her body clean right after the camera turns off. Regardless of whether this is Risi or not (I think it is), I’m just so happy she’s gone on with her life.

    • the_Shepherd

      its not gone from her life, theres more than one adult vid out there of her

      with her big tits which is after she supposilly left the porn world in 2012

      heres one of them infact this is the cosplay/porn vid

      http://beeg.com/6099561

  • That one guy…

    Has anyone considered that they might be doppelgangers? Two different people, who look almost, if not exactly identical? For example, I’ve met my doppelganger. He has some obvious differences, for one his Welsh, secondly he has blue eyes (I have hazel-green), and thirdly, he’s more outgoing than i am! But apart from that, he and I are exactly the same person! Although i do admit with some sadness…they do look awfully alot alike! But, i dont care if she was in porn! That was her past! Shes in the present! And she’s just freaking awesome!!!

    • anifreak

      they are the same. There are modelling pics of liz katz on her page that were(some are still) under the name Risi Simms. There are also pics of her pre and post boob job under both names.

  • Shes hot either way

    Too coincidental for the same tattoo to be in EXACTLY the same spot. I noticed that too. Either way, it doesn’t matter. Just more pics to google

  • Magliris Muniz

    For those who don’t want to believe here’s perfect proof;
    http://www.playvid.com/watch?v=lqjZeEdHtIP

    Also, to be honest I don’t care that she was a porn star and I don’t think it’s right to see it as a mistake. Making porn was part of her life and is what helped her get to where she is today, I respect both her past and present. I don’t see why she can’t just own up to it proudly and just ignore any negativity that may come out of it. She may lose some fans, but she can always just gain more.

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  • pirat3

    Yeah…. she was Risi Simms. They look and sound exactly the same, and had boob jobs at the same time. It doesn’t matter that she did it, but it is making it a bigger deal than it needs to be by lying about it.

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  • Joe

    I can see the point, but in all essence Porn, regardless how many people consume it, is like prostitution; hence why it’s looked at in such low esteem. This like women who maybe were call girls, once found out will follow her forever. She really should have thought about it… that’s why I don’t sell drugs.
    I think what could have made her situation better though, and maybe even partially acceptable was if she just admitted it, instead of trying to hide. I know it’s in the past but it was still done. She should just own up to it, and said it’s a part of her life that she learned from and hopes to learn from as well. I think had she taken that approach people would be more open to it.

  • RockNRoll

    Whether she did porn or not, she’s a beautiful woman with quite a bit of insight on things who makes some pretty good costumes and makes said costumes look good. Yeah. I’ve seen her videos now but doesn’t change that as a cosplayer she’s awesome. As a porn star, not so much. I mean it’s interesting to see her nude, but it’s irrelevant to my interest as a fan of hers.

    And for the record that is her. Risi Simms. Liz has two tattoos. Easy to identify. And in the porn you see those same tats in the same place. Sometimes it’s hard to tell its her because she has so much porn make up on but it is her. But honestly the version she is now is much prettier. Less fake (fake tits or not she wears make up well now, not that she actually needs it). I’m still in support of her. Are people actually making a big deal out of this? You’d think it would be a nerd boys fantasy

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  • lyrralt

    I really do hope that LIz is a real geek, but I’m betting she is not. Porn people get paid for one thing, to get you off. They will be whatever they have to be to whoever will pay the most to see it. Interestingly, her tats are pretty main stream and not at all geeky. I think she’s a pretty woman cashing in on getting a bunch of introverts to beat off to her, no different than the porn except now it’s less work, and less sticky.

    • klepp0906

      None of them are. Atleast none of the attractive ones. Common sense – chances are very very limited. The type of woman that is fame whoring (or real whoring in this case lol) isn’t usually the type to go against the grain….

      Gullable naive kids make her rich though. Sad really.

  • the_Shepherd

    odd post its not in her past, heres a vid of her thats rather current, (check the bigger cup size then she use to have lol)

    http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=1079772164&pkey=289090121392896801

  • Rabblerouser666

    Dude she fisted herself hahaha now evertime i see the Black cat cosplay shes done i see her “kitty” with a fist in it hahahaha

  • The speaker

    I am seeing too many people overreact to this, if she was an adult porn star, then that’s what she was, we don’t need to keep droning on about this, however, people are all like “ooh, this sexy cosplayer, who is semi famous, probably has naked photos, lets look at them and judge her, although we’re too sick to realise that were perverts for looking at them!” Seriously, if she was an ex pornstar, she was denying it because she want to forget it. Some of the commenters here are assholes

    • klepp0906

      It’s not about the fact she did porn dumbass. And looking at such doesn’t make you a pervert lol. It makes you a living, breathing, warm-blooded homo sapien.

      Pitiful she’s asking for money. Even more pitiful are the people giving it to her.

      I was diagnosed with cancer 4 years ago, fought and won but with no insurance I am In financial ruin. Asked for and received no help but heck, if your so well off your giving it away… What would be the better cause? I’ll even have my wife flash you her tit to sweeten the deal if it’s that important. More than you would get from this one.

  • NotBornLastNight

    Allegedly used to be in porn? There is nothing alleged about it! She WAS most certainly in porn! Liz Katz and Risi Simms are one in the same. Even IMDB has them as the same person. Here is Liz Katz’s listing – http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1968140/?ref_=nv_sr_1
    Scroll down and you will see her porn movies listed with Risi Simms in parentheses, as well as listing her alternate name, Risi Simms.
    Even without that, anyone can see they are one in the same person! Ok, maybe Stevie Wonder would be the exception! Same tattoo’s in the same exact locations. C’mon, wake up!!

  • klepp0906

    It matters because if she was in porn she can afford her own damn costume. They usually make this per creampie.

    More power to her but when you start shamelessly using e nerds inability to get their own attractive flesh to pander for money, you become a prostitute.

    I feel bad for the emo dorks of the world. Sure she’s attractive, but no more attractive than basically every one of the 40 girlfriends and now wife I’ve had. (This is the part where I tell you none of them did porn either but that would be a lie)

    My point is, attractive women are a dime a dozen. Not only that but real women are much less superficial than men. Instead of throwing your money at some skeezer online who in turn pities you, and assumes your a basement dweller.. How about going out for the weekend and being yourself? Youd be surprised.