Zack Snyder says DC’s heroes are purer than Marvel’s heroes… Oh boy


With Man of Steel looming on the horizon, the recent trailer for Superman’s next outing has put Man of Steel on my top 5 summer movies to watch this year. In speaking with SFX Magazine, this comes as no surprise to Zack Snyder as he claims that this is all Superman’s world and we’re just living in it. Yes, everyone, including Marvel’s own superheroes.

In the interview, he was asked how he hopes to bring something fresh and new to table that’s already dominated by the heroes in the MCU.

It’s Superman. If you get it right he’s kind of transcendent. The Superman shield is the second most recognizable symbol on planet Earth other than the Christian cross. If you get it right, that’s the question you’ll be asking everyone else. That should be the question you’re asking Iron Man and Thor. How is it that you feel you can be making a superhero movie in a world where Superman and Batman exist?

Okay, fair enough, Superman was the one hero to bring comic books to the limelight. He’s also one of the most recognizable superhero on Earth, and I hope Snyder does a good enough job to make us believe in Superman again.


Speaking further about the subject between Marvel and DC, Snyder was asked about the distinction between Marvel’s more fantastical and adventure films versus DC’s more grounded approach.

They [DC] truly are purer archetypes…They’re literally Biblical. If you get the DC characters right, they can be important, they can be about us. It’s not just a romp. That’s the fun, for me, of working on this movie. We got that it was important. We weren’t apologizing for Superman, which I feel has happened in the past. It’s Superman, for God’s sake. He’s a thing to be celebrated.

While one can assume this is just another moment where the folks over at DC are starting a flame war with Marvel (Matthew Modine and Wally Pfister I’m looking at you), this isn’t really a flame starter. Zack Snyder has a point. I’m a huge Marvel fan but the reason why I’m a fan of Marvel is because the heroes are flawed. They may be super but they’re human. DC’s heroes have a sort of deistic quality to them, and DC isn’t shy about that fact – Injustice: Gods Among Us anyone?. So the line about purer archetypes is true, DC’s heroes in a way are purer than the flawed characteristics of Marvel’s heroes. What do you think? Do you agree?

Man of Steel hits theaters June 14, 2013.

Mark Pacis

Self-proclaimed “Human IMDb” and comic book geek. Biggest Iron Man fan you’ll probably ever meet.


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  • bob the henchman

    you’re stupid

    • Jacob Anderson

      you’re mad cause it’s true

      • Gryat

        he’s also weak to magic… and ring of green lanterns can replicate kryptonites radiation… there you go.

  • Jacob Anderson

    You are too stupid to insult.
    Although I can call you a dumb cunt that should not be aloud to breed.

    • Random

      Says the guy who spelt “allowed” wrong.

  • Blackbelt_Jones

    Yeah,a bunch of heroes all made in the 40’s….ya know,before all that civil rights and Vietnam and Watergate stuff, not to mention how the Kennedy assassination rocked this country’s view of the world. Purer archetypes?…more like more NAIVE archetypes…

  • DoigtDuPeuple

    Ok so what if they are compared to Marvel’s? Like the article says, Marvel’s heroes are more likable because of their flaws. While DC has always been a second string with their great characters such has Elastic Man .. Reed Richards is a better written character from start to finish. Elastic Man is plain ridiculous.

    While Superman and Batman are some of the iconic Comic Book heroes out there, you have Flash, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter (who doesn’t hunt men), Green Arrow (probably the only character who was well written at some point), and Green Lantern. All of them are basic second stringers when you think about it.

    When you look at Marvel you have some substance to the characters. They have these things that make them tick.

    Spiderman, Fantastic Four, Iron Man, Captain America, Hulk, Daredevil, most X-Men, ect.. Are all first string heroes. Then you have the Marvel Girl, Vision, Hawkeye, Black Panther who are second string but still have good backstories.

    So both labels have good and bad.. I just think Marvel went a little farther in their character build up. That’s just my opinion.

    • Ronnie

      The Flash and Green Lantern, hell even Wonder Woman have has some amazing runs of story lines, much better than almost anything Marvel ever put out. Other than a few really awesome runs on Daredevil I can think of almost nothing from Marvel I’ve ever liked.

  • Fernando Yanmar Narciso

    DC heroes ARE the establishment, marvel heroes are the counterculture the anti-establishment

    • mijj

      you mean marketing decisions were made to make DC establishment and Marvel anti-establishment. They’re both actually solid establishment.

      Similar, actually, to the Beatles vs. the Rolling Stones. Beatles were marketed as safe and lovable to everyone, and Rolling Stones were marketed as dangerous and outsiders. Whereas the reality was the the Rolling Stones were actually solid, well behaved establishment lads playing a role, whereas the Beatles actually had the hard core background.

  • Nerd Col

    I like his take on it already. Question, in a sort of related subject…Anyone heard if its true that DC is linking their new Vid game (injustice:Gods among us) to movies they have coming out like Justice league, Green Lantern II and Flash {plus the rumored Batman vs. Superman}?

  • Steve

    Dc heroes are better…dats it ;)

  • Ronnie

    I’ve always been more of a DC fan because even as a kid (in 1975) I leaned towards Batman and his more serious tone. Sure DC has some crazy characters that I could never get behind, like the Legion of Superheros, but Marvel never took it seriously enough for me. Best comic books ever were DC in 1970’s, Batman comics, Green Lantern/Green Arrow comics, The Flash had some incredibly underrated story lines. These Marvel fans that think they were anti-establishment or counter-culture are just fools. Most comics are lame, but the best IMO, are/were Batman, Green Lantern, Flash and the Marvel character I’ve always loved was Daredevil. Marvel ripped off so many of their characters from DC over the years it’s not even funny. Hell one of these idiot Marvel fanboys favorites is pale imitation of Deathstroke, I can see them thinking we can’t make him as bad-ass and awesome as they did, so lets make him an annoying smart-ass. I mean even the main villain in the next Avengers movie is a Darksied ripoff, lmao.

  • Ronnie

    Funny, I think Daredevil is the only thing worthwhile to come out of Marvel for the most part. Would be nice is Stan could have come up with and idea of his own almost EVER!

    • josh

      you are an idiot.

  • Bio-ME

    Uhh!! Superman for one thing has more then one weakness like not being solar powered for a period of time can hurt him if he’s fighting someone and magic but to the point. DC will always be better then Marvel IMO of course due to the fact that DC characters are more meaningful and deeper I mean most the DC characters have a lot more awesome story arc where as Marvel does not have as many good story arcs and lots of Marvel Heroes are rip-offs of DC Characters. Iron Man is a rip off of Metello, Deadpool is a rip off of Deathstroke, Thanos is a ripoff of Darkseid, The Sentry is a ripoff of Superman, Quicksilver is a ripoff of the Flash and I’m going to stop because I could really go on.. DC for life!!

    • Jacob Anderson

      My favorite comics were always X-Men when I was a little kid, and my favorite hero was Wolverine. He was a bad ass, had great personality/lines, wouldn’t take any shit from anybody, but was very rude and rough around the edges. He could rip people to shreds which was awesome, but he frequently took grievous wounds and combat was a back and forth affair. Compare this with Superman, a nerdy little mama’s boy who was stronger than anybody who ever walked the planet, bullets bounced off of him, and he was never in trouble in a fight ever! How can you get behind somebody like that? Every fight is a forgone conclusion, he just laughs, says something banal, and carts the bad guy off to jail.
      Meanwhile, Wolverine is getting shot in the head and stabbed, while he’s disembowling some fools.
      Like I said, I HATE Superman, and don’t understand why anybody would like him.

      • Jacob Anderson

        I need flawed, vulnerable heroes to root for, not impervious robots.

      • Bio-ME

        The Reason people like Superman is because he’s the Father of all Superheroes not matter what anyone says the “S” is the second most known Symbol in the world right behind the Cross and sure Superman is practically invincible but that’s why he’s fights Villains who who’d tear Wolverine in a blink of an eye, it’s a challenge for him and he’s also an immigrant which is why he’s chooses the do the right thing and your forgetting Superman doesn’t Kill where as Wolverine does what would be the point if Superman beat someone up and said “Hey I’ll just leave him here so he could cause more harm and some Superman Villains you can’t just lock up” and don’t forget if anything Wolverine is the more robot then superman he’s the one with some kind of metal in his bones while Superman is just born with his abilities. As for personalities I wouldn’t say Wolverine had a great one a great one “wouldn’t take any shit from anybody, and was very rude and rough around the edges” Don’t get me wrong I love almost every Superhero and Villain but DC is the characters you look up too while Marvel is the character you relate to.

      • Christopher Peterson

        Wolverine is essentially superman with claws and a bad attitude smart guy….Wolverine just regenerates….so it is true to say he can’t be hurt either….again dumb argument…..

        • Jacob Anderson

          Are you daft, fool? Wolverine takes wounds and bleeds, just because he doesn’t die it doesn’t make him “superman.” How is this comparable at all to “the man of steel” who bullets bounce off and nobody is as strong as? um… it isn’t even close to the same thing.

          • Livingston Wade Oden

            Superman bleeds and has died. A set of comic books came out in the eighties leading up to this event, the last comic in this set was named “The Death of Superman.” Doomsday is the villain who finally kills the Man of Steel, dying in Lois Lane’s arms at the end of the battle. He’s only brought back by being rejuvenated in a matrix, basically duplicating Superman. Wolverine rejuvenates, much like Superman does. Both heroes can get hurt and both can walk away from a fight, but only one of these two men have died. Wolverine has yet to die in any storyline.

  • Jacob Anderson

    that is some anon with my name

  • Agt_Pendergast

    I guess I’m not allowed to like both. I must be some kind of freak.

  • Christopher Peterson

    You are stupid….he is invincible on our world due to the fact that he is an Alien so to speak…..its not true read the comics more …You wouldn’t have your precious Marvel Comics if it wasn’t for Superman anyways…he is the original Superhero ……and again have you read the Death of Superman….its not the Rock that kills him….know your shit before you spew more doo doo out of your mouth

  • yours truly

    @facebook-100002272147546:disqus your an idiot. Superman is someone who has been beaten on many occassions without kryptonite. Kryptonite basically means any one can beat him. Just so you know thor has no weakness and neither does the hulk. Think before saying kiddish immature things.

    • Jacob Anderson


  • mijj

    i think you’re on the right track.

    i liked the “silver age” superman. There was no question that superman was all powerful, but with specific weaknesses. But, in that era, superman stories weren’t usually about creating a despicable bad guy in order to deal out righteous beatings and cruelty. In that era, the powers and weaknesses were the basis of puzzles. How to protect secret identities. How to deal with the reality warping effect of red kryptonite. .. all sorts of mind teasing stuff. Very rarely about bashing stuff until you win.

    So, yeh .. all powerful superman in the current fashion for “righteous cruelty and beatings” will just be dull.

  • josh

    OKAY HANG ON. DC do not have a “more grounded approach”. christopher nolans batman does. DC has some of the worst and most unrealistic characters in comics. this article contradicts itself. youre talking about how DC heroes are “pure” and “godlike” and then you say that DC has a more “grounded approach” BULLSHIT. the only decent thing to come from DC is batman. people prefer marvels heroes because they are realistic, they are grounded, they have flaws and problems and they struggle to be decent people, let alone heroes. thats what makes marvel better than DC. they have real characters. they have characters to believe in. I will never quite understand how anyone can prefer DC. Make mine marvel, always.

  • Nate

    Biblical? Come one, dude, I love superheroes, too, but it’s just entertainment! I think you’re takin’ it a bit too far!

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